Why is 11 times the 7th term of a fibonacci series equal to the sum of 10 terms?












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Why is 11 times the 7th term of a fibonacci series equal to the sum of 10 terms?




I was watching scam-school on youtube the other day and this number trick just astonished me. Can someone please explain why this works?



After a lot of searching, I've been stumbling onto slightly complicated mathematical explanations. An explanation of a simpler nature, one that a child can understand, would be much appreciated.



Also, Can you extend this to find the sum of n terms of a fibonacci type sequence?










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  • Is this what you are looking for ? Sum[Fibonacci[n], {n, 1, m}] = Fibonacci[2 + m] - 1
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Why is 11 times the 7th term of a fibonacci series equal to the sum of 10 terms?




I was watching scam-school on youtube the other day and this number trick just astonished me. Can someone please explain why this works?



After a lot of searching, I've been stumbling onto slightly complicated mathematical explanations. An explanation of a simpler nature, one that a child can understand, would be much appreciated.



Also, Can you extend this to find the sum of n terms of a fibonacci type sequence?










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  • Is this what you are looking for ? Sum[Fibonacci[n], {n, 1, m}] = Fibonacci[2 + m] - 1
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Why is 11 times the 7th term of a fibonacci series equal to the sum of 10 terms?




I was watching scam-school on youtube the other day and this number trick just astonished me. Can someone please explain why this works?



After a lot of searching, I've been stumbling onto slightly complicated mathematical explanations. An explanation of a simpler nature, one that a child can understand, would be much appreciated.



Also, Can you extend this to find the sum of n terms of a fibonacci type sequence?










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Why is 11 times the 7th term of a fibonacci series equal to the sum of 10 terms?




I was watching scam-school on youtube the other day and this number trick just astonished me. Can someone please explain why this works?



After a lot of searching, I've been stumbling onto slightly complicated mathematical explanations. An explanation of a simpler nature, one that a child can understand, would be much appreciated.



Also, Can you extend this to find the sum of n terms of a fibonacci type sequence?







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  • Is this what you are looking for ? Sum[Fibonacci[n], {n, 1, m}] = Fibonacci[2 + m] - 1
    – Claude Leibovici
    Dec 9 '13 at 9:05


















  • Is this what you are looking for ? Sum[Fibonacci[n], {n, 1, m}] = Fibonacci[2 + m] - 1
    – Claude Leibovici
    Dec 9 '13 at 9:05
















Is this what you are looking for ? Sum[Fibonacci[n], {n, 1, m}] = Fibonacci[2 + m] - 1
– Claude Leibovici
Dec 9 '13 at 9:05




Is this what you are looking for ? Sum[Fibonacci[n], {n, 1, m}] = Fibonacci[2 + m] - 1
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@Claude Leibovici



In fact, there is a different way to answer this question using characteristic polynomials.



All Fibonacci-like sequences are associated with the same characteristic polynomial $x^2-x-1$ due to their common property : $$psi_{n+2}-psi_{n+1}-psi_{n}=0.$$



Let us define a new sequence in the following way :
$$chi_n:=(psi_{n+1}+psi_{n+2}+...+psi_{n+10})-11 psi_{n+7}. tag{1}$$



We want to show that, for any $n geq 0$, $chi_n=0$.



This is an easy consequence of the fact that the characteristic polynomial of sequence $chi_n$, i.e.,



$$p(x):=(x+x^2+...+x^9+x^{10})-11x^7$$



is divisible by $(x^2-x-1).$



Precisely :



$$p(x)=x(x^2 - x - 1)(x^7 + 2x^6 + 4x^5 - 4x^4 + x^3 - 2x^2 - 1).$$






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  • This can be used to find further such coincidental properties, maybe even a general condition for some $n^{th}$ and $m^{th}$ Fibonacci terms to related. Thank you, Jean Marie.
    – Nick
    Dec 2 '18 at 8:28










  • @Nick You are right : the simple recipe is to take any multiple of polynomial $x^2-x-1$ ; but only those having some "appeal" are eligible for a problem like this one...
    – Jean Marie
    Dec 2 '18 at 13:29



















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As far as I know, it seems to be nothing more than coincidence. Say you have your starting numbers, $a$ and $b$. Your ten terms are
$a,b,a+b,a+2b,2a+3b,3a+5b,5a+8b,8a+13b,13a+21b,21a+34b$



the sum of which is $55a+88b$, which just happens to $11$ times the seventh term in your sequence.






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  • Can you extend that to find the sum of n fibonacci numbers?
    – Nick
    Dec 9 '13 at 8:15






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    Consider the regular Fibonacci sequence: 1,1,2,3,5 etc. To find the sum of the first n terms, take the n+2nd term, and subtract 1. For example, to sum 1+1+2+3+5+8+13+21, go 2 terms over, to 55, and subtract 1, to get 54. In general, if you have a Fibonacci-like sequence starting with a and b instead of 1 and 1, to find the desired sum, move two over, and subtract b instead of 1.
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If $F_n$ is the $n$th Fibonacci number (that is, $F_0=0$, $F_1=1$ and $F_{n+2}=F_{n+1}+F_n$), you can prove by induction that



$$sum_{k=0}^n F_k = F_{n+2}-1$$



It's obviously true for $n=0$, and if it is true for $n$, then



$$sum_{k=0}^{n+1} F_k = F_{n+1} + sum_{k=0}^{n} F_k = F_{n+1} +F_{n+2}-1 = F_{n+3}-1$$



Thus it's true for all $n$.





Your numerical trick is thus simply $143=F_{12} - 1 = 11 cdot F_7$. But notice that in general, $n not | F_{n+1} - 1$. For example, $609=F_{15}-1$, which is odd, thus not divisible by $14$.



You can also check for which values of $n$ it happens that $n|F_{n+1}-1$: $1, 4, 6, 9, 11, 19, 24, 29, 31, 34, 41, 46, 48, 59, 61, 71, 72, 79, 89, 94, 96, 100...$



This is sequence A219612 in OEIS, but if there is a pattern, it's not obvious.





As a follow-up, if you have a look at prime numbers in the preceding list, you get
$11, 19, 29, 31, 41, 59, 61, 71, 79, 89, 101, 109, 131...$



Apparently, they are primes congruent to $pm1$ modulo 5 (see OEIS A045468), but I don't have a proof.



If true, it would mean that for a prime $p$,



$$p | F_{p+1}-1 iff p equiv pm 1 pmod 5$$






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    It is unclear what you mean by a fibonacci series, but presumably is it simply one with $a_{n+1}=a_{n}+a_{n-1}$ and no particular starting points. Then you have in general



    Sum of first ... terms   is ... times   ...th term
    (1) (1) (1)
    2 1 3
    (3) (2) (3)
    6 4 5
    10 11 7
    14 29 9
    4n-2 int(phi^(2n+1)) 2n+1


    where phi is $phi=frac{1+sqrt{5}}{2}$.






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      The most simple answer is not pretty but very simple:
      Let use many times the fact that Un+2 = Un +Un+1




      • U1+U2+U3+U4+U5+U6+U7+U8+U9+U10 =

      • U1+U2+U3+U4+U5+U6+U7+2xU8+2xU9 = //Split of U10 in U9+U8

      • U1+U2+U3+U4+U5+U6+3xU7+4xU8 = //Split of U9 in U8+U7

      • U1+U2+U3+U4+U5+5xU6+7xU7 = //Split of U8 in U7+U6

      • U1+U2+U3+U4+4xU6+8xU7 = //Merge of U5+U6 in U7

      • U1+U2+U5+4xU6+8xU7 = //Merge of U3+U4 in U5

      • U1+U2+3xU6+9xU7 = //Merge of U5+U6 in U7

      • U3+3xU6+9xU7 = //Merge of U1+U2 in U3

      • U3+U4+U5+2xU6+9xU7 = //Split of U6 in U5+U4

      • U3+U4+U6+10xU7 = //Merge of U5+U6 in U7

      • U5+U6+10xU7 = //Merge of U3+U4 in U5

      • 11xU7 = //Merge of U5+U6 in U7






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        If the first term is x, and the second term is y, then
        (1) x
        (2) y
        (3) x+ y
        (4) x + 2y
        (5) 2x + 3y
        (6) 3x +5y
        (7) 5x +8y
        (8) 8x + 13y
        (9) 13x + 21y
        (10) 21x + 34y



        The sum of all of those numbers is 55x + 88y, which factors to 11(5x + 8y)
        Notice that the 7th term is 5x + 8y, so multiply the 7th term times 11 and you will get the sum of all the numbers in the sequence.






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        @Claude Leibovici



        In fact, there is a different way to answer this question using characteristic polynomials.



        All Fibonacci-like sequences are associated with the same characteristic polynomial $x^2-x-1$ due to their common property : $$psi_{n+2}-psi_{n+1}-psi_{n}=0.$$



        Let us define a new sequence in the following way :
        $$chi_n:=(psi_{n+1}+psi_{n+2}+...+psi_{n+10})-11 psi_{n+7}. tag{1}$$



        We want to show that, for any $n geq 0$, $chi_n=0$.



        This is an easy consequence of the fact that the characteristic polynomial of sequence $chi_n$, i.e.,



        $$p(x):=(x+x^2+...+x^9+x^{10})-11x^7$$



        is divisible by $(x^2-x-1).$



        Precisely :



        $$p(x)=x(x^2 - x - 1)(x^7 + 2x^6 + 4x^5 - 4x^4 + x^3 - 2x^2 - 1).$$






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        • This can be used to find further such coincidental properties, maybe even a general condition for some $n^{th}$ and $m^{th}$ Fibonacci terms to related. Thank you, Jean Marie.
          – Nick
          Dec 2 '18 at 8:28










        • @Nick You are right : the simple recipe is to take any multiple of polynomial $x^2-x-1$ ; but only those having some "appeal" are eligible for a problem like this one...
          – Jean Marie
          Dec 2 '18 at 13:29
















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        @Claude Leibovici



        In fact, there is a different way to answer this question using characteristic polynomials.



        All Fibonacci-like sequences are associated with the same characteristic polynomial $x^2-x-1$ due to their common property : $$psi_{n+2}-psi_{n+1}-psi_{n}=0.$$



        Let us define a new sequence in the following way :
        $$chi_n:=(psi_{n+1}+psi_{n+2}+...+psi_{n+10})-11 psi_{n+7}. tag{1}$$



        We want to show that, for any $n geq 0$, $chi_n=0$.



        This is an easy consequence of the fact that the characteristic polynomial of sequence $chi_n$, i.e.,



        $$p(x):=(x+x^2+...+x^9+x^{10})-11x^7$$



        is divisible by $(x^2-x-1).$



        Precisely :



        $$p(x)=x(x^2 - x - 1)(x^7 + 2x^6 + 4x^5 - 4x^4 + x^3 - 2x^2 - 1).$$






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        • This can be used to find further such coincidental properties, maybe even a general condition for some $n^{th}$ and $m^{th}$ Fibonacci terms to related. Thank you, Jean Marie.
          – Nick
          Dec 2 '18 at 8:28










        • @Nick You are right : the simple recipe is to take any multiple of polynomial $x^2-x-1$ ; but only those having some "appeal" are eligible for a problem like this one...
          – Jean Marie
          Dec 2 '18 at 13:29














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        @Claude Leibovici



        In fact, there is a different way to answer this question using characteristic polynomials.



        All Fibonacci-like sequences are associated with the same characteristic polynomial $x^2-x-1$ due to their common property : $$psi_{n+2}-psi_{n+1}-psi_{n}=0.$$



        Let us define a new sequence in the following way :
        $$chi_n:=(psi_{n+1}+psi_{n+2}+...+psi_{n+10})-11 psi_{n+7}. tag{1}$$



        We want to show that, for any $n geq 0$, $chi_n=0$.



        This is an easy consequence of the fact that the characteristic polynomial of sequence $chi_n$, i.e.,



        $$p(x):=(x+x^2+...+x^9+x^{10})-11x^7$$



        is divisible by $(x^2-x-1).$



        Precisely :



        $$p(x)=x(x^2 - x - 1)(x^7 + 2x^6 + 4x^5 - 4x^4 + x^3 - 2x^2 - 1).$$






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        @Claude Leibovici



        In fact, there is a different way to answer this question using characteristic polynomials.



        All Fibonacci-like sequences are associated with the same characteristic polynomial $x^2-x-1$ due to their common property : $$psi_{n+2}-psi_{n+1}-psi_{n}=0.$$



        Let us define a new sequence in the following way :
        $$chi_n:=(psi_{n+1}+psi_{n+2}+...+psi_{n+10})-11 psi_{n+7}. tag{1}$$



        We want to show that, for any $n geq 0$, $chi_n=0$.



        This is an easy consequence of the fact that the characteristic polynomial of sequence $chi_n$, i.e.,



        $$p(x):=(x+x^2+...+x^9+x^{10})-11x^7$$



        is divisible by $(x^2-x-1).$



        Precisely :



        $$p(x)=x(x^2 - x - 1)(x^7 + 2x^6 + 4x^5 - 4x^4 + x^3 - 2x^2 - 1).$$







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        • This can be used to find further such coincidental properties, maybe even a general condition for some $n^{th}$ and $m^{th}$ Fibonacci terms to related. Thank you, Jean Marie.
          – Nick
          Dec 2 '18 at 8:28










        • @Nick You are right : the simple recipe is to take any multiple of polynomial $x^2-x-1$ ; but only those having some "appeal" are eligible for a problem like this one...
          – Jean Marie
          Dec 2 '18 at 13:29


















        • This can be used to find further such coincidental properties, maybe even a general condition for some $n^{th}$ and $m^{th}$ Fibonacci terms to related. Thank you, Jean Marie.
          – Nick
          Dec 2 '18 at 8:28










        • @Nick You are right : the simple recipe is to take any multiple of polynomial $x^2-x-1$ ; but only those having some "appeal" are eligible for a problem like this one...
          – Jean Marie
          Dec 2 '18 at 13:29
















        This can be used to find further such coincidental properties, maybe even a general condition for some $n^{th}$ and $m^{th}$ Fibonacci terms to related. Thank you, Jean Marie.
        – Nick
        Dec 2 '18 at 8:28




        This can be used to find further such coincidental properties, maybe even a general condition for some $n^{th}$ and $m^{th}$ Fibonacci terms to related. Thank you, Jean Marie.
        – Nick
        Dec 2 '18 at 8:28












        @Nick You are right : the simple recipe is to take any multiple of polynomial $x^2-x-1$ ; but only those having some "appeal" are eligible for a problem like this one...
        – Jean Marie
        Dec 2 '18 at 13:29




        @Nick You are right : the simple recipe is to take any multiple of polynomial $x^2-x-1$ ; but only those having some "appeal" are eligible for a problem like this one...
        – Jean Marie
        Dec 2 '18 at 13:29











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        As far as I know, it seems to be nothing more than coincidence. Say you have your starting numbers, $a$ and $b$. Your ten terms are
        $a,b,a+b,a+2b,2a+3b,3a+5b,5a+8b,8a+13b,13a+21b,21a+34b$



        the sum of which is $55a+88b$, which just happens to $11$ times the seventh term in your sequence.






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        • Can you extend that to find the sum of n fibonacci numbers?
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          Dec 9 '13 at 8:15






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          Consider the regular Fibonacci sequence: 1,1,2,3,5 etc. To find the sum of the first n terms, take the n+2nd term, and subtract 1. For example, to sum 1+1+2+3+5+8+13+21, go 2 terms over, to 55, and subtract 1, to get 54. In general, if you have a Fibonacci-like sequence starting with a and b instead of 1 and 1, to find the desired sum, move two over, and subtract b instead of 1.
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        As far as I know, it seems to be nothing more than coincidence. Say you have your starting numbers, $a$ and $b$. Your ten terms are
        $a,b,a+b,a+2b,2a+3b,3a+5b,5a+8b,8a+13b,13a+21b,21a+34b$



        the sum of which is $55a+88b$, which just happens to $11$ times the seventh term in your sequence.






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        • Can you extend that to find the sum of n fibonacci numbers?
          – Nick
          Dec 9 '13 at 8:15






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          Consider the regular Fibonacci sequence: 1,1,2,3,5 etc. To find the sum of the first n terms, take the n+2nd term, and subtract 1. For example, to sum 1+1+2+3+5+8+13+21, go 2 terms over, to 55, and subtract 1, to get 54. In general, if you have a Fibonacci-like sequence starting with a and b instead of 1 and 1, to find the desired sum, move two over, and subtract b instead of 1.
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        As far as I know, it seems to be nothing more than coincidence. Say you have your starting numbers, $a$ and $b$. Your ten terms are
        $a,b,a+b,a+2b,2a+3b,3a+5b,5a+8b,8a+13b,13a+21b,21a+34b$



        the sum of which is $55a+88b$, which just happens to $11$ times the seventh term in your sequence.






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        As far as I know, it seems to be nothing more than coincidence. Say you have your starting numbers, $a$ and $b$. Your ten terms are
        $a,b,a+b,a+2b,2a+3b,3a+5b,5a+8b,8a+13b,13a+21b,21a+34b$



        the sum of which is $55a+88b$, which just happens to $11$ times the seventh term in your sequence.







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        • Can you extend that to find the sum of n fibonacci numbers?
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          Consider the regular Fibonacci sequence: 1,1,2,3,5 etc. To find the sum of the first n terms, take the n+2nd term, and subtract 1. For example, to sum 1+1+2+3+5+8+13+21, go 2 terms over, to 55, and subtract 1, to get 54. In general, if you have a Fibonacci-like sequence starting with a and b instead of 1 and 1, to find the desired sum, move two over, and subtract b instead of 1.
          – ant11
          Dec 9 '13 at 8:20


















        • Can you extend that to find the sum of n fibonacci numbers?
          – Nick
          Dec 9 '13 at 8:15






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          Consider the regular Fibonacci sequence: 1,1,2,3,5 etc. To find the sum of the first n terms, take the n+2nd term, and subtract 1. For example, to sum 1+1+2+3+5+8+13+21, go 2 terms over, to 55, and subtract 1, to get 54. In general, if you have a Fibonacci-like sequence starting with a and b instead of 1 and 1, to find the desired sum, move two over, and subtract b instead of 1.
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        Can you extend that to find the sum of n fibonacci numbers?
        – Nick
        Dec 9 '13 at 8:15




        Can you extend that to find the sum of n fibonacci numbers?
        – Nick
        Dec 9 '13 at 8:15




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        Consider the regular Fibonacci sequence: 1,1,2,3,5 etc. To find the sum of the first n terms, take the n+2nd term, and subtract 1. For example, to sum 1+1+2+3+5+8+13+21, go 2 terms over, to 55, and subtract 1, to get 54. In general, if you have a Fibonacci-like sequence starting with a and b instead of 1 and 1, to find the desired sum, move two over, and subtract b instead of 1.
        – ant11
        Dec 9 '13 at 8:20




        Consider the regular Fibonacci sequence: 1,1,2,3,5 etc. To find the sum of the first n terms, take the n+2nd term, and subtract 1. For example, to sum 1+1+2+3+5+8+13+21, go 2 terms over, to 55, and subtract 1, to get 54. In general, if you have a Fibonacci-like sequence starting with a and b instead of 1 and 1, to find the desired sum, move two over, and subtract b instead of 1.
        – ant11
        Dec 9 '13 at 8:20











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        If $F_n$ is the $n$th Fibonacci number (that is, $F_0=0$, $F_1=1$ and $F_{n+2}=F_{n+1}+F_n$), you can prove by induction that



        $$sum_{k=0}^n F_k = F_{n+2}-1$$



        It's obviously true for $n=0$, and if it is true for $n$, then



        $$sum_{k=0}^{n+1} F_k = F_{n+1} + sum_{k=0}^{n} F_k = F_{n+1} +F_{n+2}-1 = F_{n+3}-1$$



        Thus it's true for all $n$.





        Your numerical trick is thus simply $143=F_{12} - 1 = 11 cdot F_7$. But notice that in general, $n not | F_{n+1} - 1$. For example, $609=F_{15}-1$, which is odd, thus not divisible by $14$.



        You can also check for which values of $n$ it happens that $n|F_{n+1}-1$: $1, 4, 6, 9, 11, 19, 24, 29, 31, 34, 41, 46, 48, 59, 61, 71, 72, 79, 89, 94, 96, 100...$



        This is sequence A219612 in OEIS, but if there is a pattern, it's not obvious.





        As a follow-up, if you have a look at prime numbers in the preceding list, you get
        $11, 19, 29, 31, 41, 59, 61, 71, 79, 89, 101, 109, 131...$



        Apparently, they are primes congruent to $pm1$ modulo 5 (see OEIS A045468), but I don't have a proof.



        If true, it would mean that for a prime $p$,



        $$p | F_{p+1}-1 iff p equiv pm 1 pmod 5$$






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          If $F_n$ is the $n$th Fibonacci number (that is, $F_0=0$, $F_1=1$ and $F_{n+2}=F_{n+1}+F_n$), you can prove by induction that



          $$sum_{k=0}^n F_k = F_{n+2}-1$$



          It's obviously true for $n=0$, and if it is true for $n$, then



          $$sum_{k=0}^{n+1} F_k = F_{n+1} + sum_{k=0}^{n} F_k = F_{n+1} +F_{n+2}-1 = F_{n+3}-1$$



          Thus it's true for all $n$.





          Your numerical trick is thus simply $143=F_{12} - 1 = 11 cdot F_7$. But notice that in general, $n not | F_{n+1} - 1$. For example, $609=F_{15}-1$, which is odd, thus not divisible by $14$.



          You can also check for which values of $n$ it happens that $n|F_{n+1}-1$: $1, 4, 6, 9, 11, 19, 24, 29, 31, 34, 41, 46, 48, 59, 61, 71, 72, 79, 89, 94, 96, 100...$



          This is sequence A219612 in OEIS, but if there is a pattern, it's not obvious.





          As a follow-up, if you have a look at prime numbers in the preceding list, you get
          $11, 19, 29, 31, 41, 59, 61, 71, 79, 89, 101, 109, 131...$



          Apparently, they are primes congruent to $pm1$ modulo 5 (see OEIS A045468), but I don't have a proof.



          If true, it would mean that for a prime $p$,



          $$p | F_{p+1}-1 iff p equiv pm 1 pmod 5$$






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            If $F_n$ is the $n$th Fibonacci number (that is, $F_0=0$, $F_1=1$ and $F_{n+2}=F_{n+1}+F_n$), you can prove by induction that



            $$sum_{k=0}^n F_k = F_{n+2}-1$$



            It's obviously true for $n=0$, and if it is true for $n$, then



            $$sum_{k=0}^{n+1} F_k = F_{n+1} + sum_{k=0}^{n} F_k = F_{n+1} +F_{n+2}-1 = F_{n+3}-1$$



            Thus it's true for all $n$.





            Your numerical trick is thus simply $143=F_{12} - 1 = 11 cdot F_7$. But notice that in general, $n not | F_{n+1} - 1$. For example, $609=F_{15}-1$, which is odd, thus not divisible by $14$.



            You can also check for which values of $n$ it happens that $n|F_{n+1}-1$: $1, 4, 6, 9, 11, 19, 24, 29, 31, 34, 41, 46, 48, 59, 61, 71, 72, 79, 89, 94, 96, 100...$



            This is sequence A219612 in OEIS, but if there is a pattern, it's not obvious.





            As a follow-up, if you have a look at prime numbers in the preceding list, you get
            $11, 19, 29, 31, 41, 59, 61, 71, 79, 89, 101, 109, 131...$



            Apparently, they are primes congruent to $pm1$ modulo 5 (see OEIS A045468), but I don't have a proof.



            If true, it would mean that for a prime $p$,



            $$p | F_{p+1}-1 iff p equiv pm 1 pmod 5$$






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            If $F_n$ is the $n$th Fibonacci number (that is, $F_0=0$, $F_1=1$ and $F_{n+2}=F_{n+1}+F_n$), you can prove by induction that



            $$sum_{k=0}^n F_k = F_{n+2}-1$$



            It's obviously true for $n=0$, and if it is true for $n$, then



            $$sum_{k=0}^{n+1} F_k = F_{n+1} + sum_{k=0}^{n} F_k = F_{n+1} +F_{n+2}-1 = F_{n+3}-1$$



            Thus it's true for all $n$.





            Your numerical trick is thus simply $143=F_{12} - 1 = 11 cdot F_7$. But notice that in general, $n not | F_{n+1} - 1$. For example, $609=F_{15}-1$, which is odd, thus not divisible by $14$.



            You can also check for which values of $n$ it happens that $n|F_{n+1}-1$: $1, 4, 6, 9, 11, 19, 24, 29, 31, 34, 41, 46, 48, 59, 61, 71, 72, 79, 89, 94, 96, 100...$



            This is sequence A219612 in OEIS, but if there is a pattern, it's not obvious.





            As a follow-up, if you have a look at prime numbers in the preceding list, you get
            $11, 19, 29, 31, 41, 59, 61, 71, 79, 89, 101, 109, 131...$



            Apparently, they are primes congruent to $pm1$ modulo 5 (see OEIS A045468), but I don't have a proof.



            If true, it would mean that for a prime $p$,



            $$p | F_{p+1}-1 iff p equiv pm 1 pmod 5$$







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                It is unclear what you mean by a fibonacci series, but presumably is it simply one with $a_{n+1}=a_{n}+a_{n-1}$ and no particular starting points. Then you have in general



                Sum of first ... terms   is ... times   ...th term
                (1) (1) (1)
                2 1 3
                (3) (2) (3)
                6 4 5
                10 11 7
                14 29 9
                4n-2 int(phi^(2n+1)) 2n+1


                where phi is $phi=frac{1+sqrt{5}}{2}$.






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                  It is unclear what you mean by a fibonacci series, but presumably is it simply one with $a_{n+1}=a_{n}+a_{n-1}$ and no particular starting points. Then you have in general



                  Sum of first ... terms   is ... times   ...th term
                  (1) (1) (1)
                  2 1 3
                  (3) (2) (3)
                  6 4 5
                  10 11 7
                  14 29 9
                  4n-2 int(phi^(2n+1)) 2n+1


                  where phi is $phi=frac{1+sqrt{5}}{2}$.






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                    1












                    1








                    1






                    It is unclear what you mean by a fibonacci series, but presumably is it simply one with $a_{n+1}=a_{n}+a_{n-1}$ and no particular starting points. Then you have in general



                    Sum of first ... terms   is ... times   ...th term
                    (1) (1) (1)
                    2 1 3
                    (3) (2) (3)
                    6 4 5
                    10 11 7
                    14 29 9
                    4n-2 int(phi^(2n+1)) 2n+1


                    where phi is $phi=frac{1+sqrt{5}}{2}$.






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                    It is unclear what you mean by a fibonacci series, but presumably is it simply one with $a_{n+1}=a_{n}+a_{n-1}$ and no particular starting points. Then you have in general



                    Sum of first ... terms   is ... times   ...th term
                    (1) (1) (1)
                    2 1 3
                    (3) (2) (3)
                    6 4 5
                    10 11 7
                    14 29 9
                    4n-2 int(phi^(2n+1)) 2n+1


                    where phi is $phi=frac{1+sqrt{5}}{2}$.







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                    answered Dec 9 '13 at 9:05









                    Henry

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                        The most simple answer is not pretty but very simple:
                        Let use many times the fact that Un+2 = Un +Un+1




                        • U1+U2+U3+U4+U5+U6+U7+U8+U9+U10 =

                        • U1+U2+U3+U4+U5+U6+U7+2xU8+2xU9 = //Split of U10 in U9+U8

                        • U1+U2+U3+U4+U5+U6+3xU7+4xU8 = //Split of U9 in U8+U7

                        • U1+U2+U3+U4+U5+5xU6+7xU7 = //Split of U8 in U7+U6

                        • U1+U2+U3+U4+4xU6+8xU7 = //Merge of U5+U6 in U7

                        • U1+U2+U5+4xU6+8xU7 = //Merge of U3+U4 in U5

                        • U1+U2+3xU6+9xU7 = //Merge of U5+U6 in U7

                        • U3+3xU6+9xU7 = //Merge of U1+U2 in U3

                        • U3+U4+U5+2xU6+9xU7 = //Split of U6 in U5+U4

                        • U3+U4+U6+10xU7 = //Merge of U5+U6 in U7

                        • U5+U6+10xU7 = //Merge of U3+U4 in U5

                        • 11xU7 = //Merge of U5+U6 in U7






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                          1














                          The most simple answer is not pretty but very simple:
                          Let use many times the fact that Un+2 = Un +Un+1




                          • U1+U2+U3+U4+U5+U6+U7+U8+U9+U10 =

                          • U1+U2+U3+U4+U5+U6+U7+2xU8+2xU9 = //Split of U10 in U9+U8

                          • U1+U2+U3+U4+U5+U6+3xU7+4xU8 = //Split of U9 in U8+U7

                          • U1+U2+U3+U4+U5+5xU6+7xU7 = //Split of U8 in U7+U6

                          • U1+U2+U3+U4+4xU6+8xU7 = //Merge of U5+U6 in U7

                          • U1+U2+U5+4xU6+8xU7 = //Merge of U3+U4 in U5

                          • U1+U2+3xU6+9xU7 = //Merge of U5+U6 in U7

                          • U3+3xU6+9xU7 = //Merge of U1+U2 in U3

                          • U3+U4+U5+2xU6+9xU7 = //Split of U6 in U5+U4

                          • U3+U4+U6+10xU7 = //Merge of U5+U6 in U7

                          • U5+U6+10xU7 = //Merge of U3+U4 in U5

                          • 11xU7 = //Merge of U5+U6 in U7






                          share|cite|improve this answer
























                            1












                            1








                            1






                            The most simple answer is not pretty but very simple:
                            Let use many times the fact that Un+2 = Un +Un+1




                            • U1+U2+U3+U4+U5+U6+U7+U8+U9+U10 =

                            • U1+U2+U3+U4+U5+U6+U7+2xU8+2xU9 = //Split of U10 in U9+U8

                            • U1+U2+U3+U4+U5+U6+3xU7+4xU8 = //Split of U9 in U8+U7

                            • U1+U2+U3+U4+U5+5xU6+7xU7 = //Split of U8 in U7+U6

                            • U1+U2+U3+U4+4xU6+8xU7 = //Merge of U5+U6 in U7

                            • U1+U2+U5+4xU6+8xU7 = //Merge of U3+U4 in U5

                            • U1+U2+3xU6+9xU7 = //Merge of U5+U6 in U7

                            • U3+3xU6+9xU7 = //Merge of U1+U2 in U3

                            • U3+U4+U5+2xU6+9xU7 = //Split of U6 in U5+U4

                            • U3+U4+U6+10xU7 = //Merge of U5+U6 in U7

                            • U5+U6+10xU7 = //Merge of U3+U4 in U5

                            • 11xU7 = //Merge of U5+U6 in U7






                            share|cite|improve this answer












                            The most simple answer is not pretty but very simple:
                            Let use many times the fact that Un+2 = Un +Un+1




                            • U1+U2+U3+U4+U5+U6+U7+U8+U9+U10 =

                            • U1+U2+U3+U4+U5+U6+U7+2xU8+2xU9 = //Split of U10 in U9+U8

                            • U1+U2+U3+U4+U5+U6+3xU7+4xU8 = //Split of U9 in U8+U7

                            • U1+U2+U3+U4+U5+5xU6+7xU7 = //Split of U8 in U7+U6

                            • U1+U2+U3+U4+4xU6+8xU7 = //Merge of U5+U6 in U7

                            • U1+U2+U5+4xU6+8xU7 = //Merge of U3+U4 in U5

                            • U1+U2+3xU6+9xU7 = //Merge of U5+U6 in U7

                            • U3+3xU6+9xU7 = //Merge of U1+U2 in U3

                            • U3+U4+U5+2xU6+9xU7 = //Split of U6 in U5+U4

                            • U3+U4+U6+10xU7 = //Merge of U5+U6 in U7

                            • U5+U6+10xU7 = //Merge of U3+U4 in U5

                            • 11xU7 = //Merge of U5+U6 in U7







                            share|cite|improve this answer












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                            answered Jan 19 '15 at 22:49









                            Huguet

                            111




                            111























                                -1














                                If the first term is x, and the second term is y, then
                                (1) x
                                (2) y
                                (3) x+ y
                                (4) x + 2y
                                (5) 2x + 3y
                                (6) 3x +5y
                                (7) 5x +8y
                                (8) 8x + 13y
                                (9) 13x + 21y
                                (10) 21x + 34y



                                The sum of all of those numbers is 55x + 88y, which factors to 11(5x + 8y)
                                Notice that the 7th term is 5x + 8y, so multiply the 7th term times 11 and you will get the sum of all the numbers in the sequence.






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                                -1














                                If the first term is x, and the second term is y, then
                                (1) x
                                (2) y
                                (3) x+ y
                                (4) x + 2y
                                (5) 2x + 3y
                                (6) 3x +5y
                                (7) 5x +8y
                                (8) 8x + 13y
                                (9) 13x + 21y
                                (10) 21x + 34y



                                The sum of all of those numbers is 55x + 88y, which factors to 11(5x + 8y)
                                Notice that the 7th term is 5x + 8y, so multiply the 7th term times 11 and you will get the sum of all the numbers in the sequence.






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                                -1












                                -1








                                -1






                                If the first term is x, and the second term is y, then
                                (1) x
                                (2) y
                                (3) x+ y
                                (4) x + 2y
                                (5) 2x + 3y
                                (6) 3x +5y
                                (7) 5x +8y
                                (8) 8x + 13y
                                (9) 13x + 21y
                                (10) 21x + 34y



                                The sum of all of those numbers is 55x + 88y, which factors to 11(5x + 8y)
                                Notice that the 7th term is 5x + 8y, so multiply the 7th term times 11 and you will get the sum of all the numbers in the sequence.






                                share|cite|improve this answer












                                If the first term is x, and the second term is y, then
                                (1) x
                                (2) y
                                (3) x+ y
                                (4) x + 2y
                                (5) 2x + 3y
                                (6) 3x +5y
                                (7) 5x +8y
                                (8) 8x + 13y
                                (9) 13x + 21y
                                (10) 21x + 34y



                                The sum of all of those numbers is 55x + 88y, which factors to 11(5x + 8y)
                                Notice that the 7th term is 5x + 8y, so multiply the 7th term times 11 and you will get the sum of all the numbers in the sequence.







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